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Post by The Wirefox on Jan 3, 2012 20:12:23 GMT
I have been very impressed with the b/w landscapes appearing on FSC especially the depth and control of the black toning. I have not been able to get out much of late so I have been revisiting some holiday snaps in the light of more recent PP knowledge. This shot is of Herne Bay Pier in Kent. Not my usual fayre so C&C will be much appreciated...oh and I was going for surreal   |
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Post by chrisc on Jan 3, 2012 20:27:35 GMT
I like it...looks like a touch of selenium toning.
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Post by Barry on Jan 3, 2012 22:11:16 GMT
Great sky, and the sea has a real shine to it, but I do find my eye moving between the brighter area in sky and then sea, struggling to stay on the main subject which should really be the pier building.
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Post by katynoelle on Jan 4, 2012 18:18:16 GMT
Well, I know that when I was flipping through the new images from friends on flickr, I came to this and gasped! It's the surreal light - the beautiful clouds and the glassiness of the sea. Maybe (I'm not sure - it's just a thought) it's on such a grand scale that it becomes simple??? but it wouldn't mean anything without the pier and the building. Just thoughts...
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Post by The Wirefox on Jan 4, 2012 19:38:58 GMT
Thanks Chris. I really like the results that can be obtained from manipulating the layers created by this plugin. The trick is to prep the image first by applying a Velvia film filter and upping the contrast before applying the plugin and getting to work on the layers.
Barry, you have described my uneasiness with this image. I did put some 'fake' fog on the horizon but it looked messy. I will have to have a think about this one.
Katy, I think the fact that the content is very simple, sea, pier, sky and the bold demarcation between mean that the image does have some impact. the fact that the separate components are complex in themselves does not detract from that. Barry is the influence here. If you study most of Barry's images they are complex in their detail but simple in the way they are assembled as components in their composition. once you recognise this you can see the potential in your own images. further more it can then be applied at capture. I have come to the conclusion that just because something is not minimalist does not mean that it cannot be presented in a simple way.
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Post by chrisc on Jan 4, 2012 20:01:08 GMT
Do you do the velvia on the color image or do it on the conversion? I have only used the velvia on the colored version. I don't use it as much as I used to, but may go back and give it a whirl, especially as I really dig deeper into multi-layering techniques in B&W.
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Post by The Wirefox on Jan 4, 2012 20:26:47 GMT
Chris, I use the Velvia on the colour image. I have tried on b/w images but the results are unpredictable where light and dark areas meet. Just to illustrate the point I made about composition; this image has had similar treatment but the complex details are not contained within distinct compositional areas so the result is far more 'messy'. It becomes simply a scene rather than a composition.  |
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Post by katynoelle on Jan 6, 2012 0:56:27 GMT
I have come to the conclusion that just because something is not minimalist does not mean that it cannot be presented in a simple way. I've noticed that, too, but find it is much harder to do than it looks. It looks so....simple.  You know....I bought a book on composition. I was given one, too, you would just think I'd have a better handle on it all. |
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Post by DonS on Jan 6, 2012 9:27:57 GMT
Sorry Steve, just try play a little with your picture.. I kinda agree with Barry for the bright sky so I try to "dim" it a bit..   |
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Post by The Wirefox on Jan 6, 2012 17:18:13 GMT
Looks great to me Don. What technique did you use to lower the brightness - burning? I will have a play with this one over the weekend.
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Post by Barry on Jan 6, 2012 18:47:30 GMT
Good edit Don, I feel that I can look at the pier building now without my eye wandering towards the light.
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Post by cannockwolf on Jan 10, 2012 21:19:11 GMT
really nice shot this, here's my take on it, the sky didn't have interesting clouds in the top half so they went, then i added my doom and gloom effect LOL  |
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Post by DonS on Jan 11, 2012 4:07:37 GMT
Steve, I'm using NIK software and then use the low key option and set the control point to adjust brighnes of the sky... ;D
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Post by chrisc on Jan 11, 2012 13:44:09 GMT
It must be duly noted for the record that it was I, ChrisC who coined both the "JIRO EFFECT" and "DOOM & GLOOM," terms. Not that I do either of them with any great dexterity, that I understand and appreciate should have some merit. All hail ChrisC...All hail ChrisC....  |
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Post by chrisc on Jan 11, 2012 13:48:24 GMT
Now,, for the more serious side....a little selenium is a good tool to build a greater depth in blacks, but a lot is too blue. This is much better an exposure, but far too blue for me.
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