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Post by Antonio Correia on Dec 14, 2011 11:29:27 GMT
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Post by Kit on Dec 15, 2011 8:13:58 GMT
This is quite different to any of your recent portraits, Antonio, in that it somehow makes me feel a little uneasy, almost uncomfortable. I'm not meaning that in a negative manner, you understand, but simply as an observation. You have captured "a moment" somehow, that may well typify who this guy is. It is something to do with how he is standing in an almost defensive manner and the way he appears to be raising his hand, and something in his expression. There is a resigned dullness there - almost, but not quite aggression. I would be interested to know more about him.
But photographically, it is quite what I aspire to, as far as exposure, treatment etc goes.
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Post by jeeperman on Dec 15, 2011 15:09:38 GMT
I have looked at this a couple times Antonio. While it is good it is not quite at the same level as your previous images. I am not exactly set on why I feel this way but it seems to be missing the richness. The detail and brightness in the wall seems to draw attention from the man himself. It is nice but out in amongst your series I think it would stand out as different.
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Post by chrisc on Dec 15, 2011 15:58:50 GMT
Here is a character straight out of "Man of La Mancha (yes, that is Spanish...but, it is a people close)." He is a character rich in a tradition of the Portugeuse people. It is somewhat hard to tell if he is leaning against the wall or using the wall to keep from falling down.
The cigarette is carefully cupped against the wind and to warm his hand in the obvious cold air; the grizzled facial hair and somewhat frooping eyes tell a story of a man facing hard times.
I think the treatment is just right for him. It is neither too soft, nor too harsh to reveal his character.
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Post by Barry on Dec 15, 2011 17:05:06 GMT
Again great face and texture, but I do find the soft hand a bit distracting in foreground.
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Post by Stevewebb on Dec 15, 2011 17:42:08 GMT
I too find the OOF hand a bit distracting. I like everything else though.
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Post by Antonio Correia on Dec 16, 2011 22:23:57 GMT
I took some time to give you all an answer because I have a lot of things to say. Thank you all for the comments  - This is quite different to any of your recent portraits, Antonio, in that it somehow makes me feel a little uneasy, almost uncomfortable. I'm not meaning that in a negative manner, you understand, but simply as an observation. You have captured "a moment" somehow, that may well typify who this guy is. It is something to do with how he is standing in an almost defensive manner and the way he appears to be raising his hand, and something in his expression. There is a resigned dullness there - almost, but not quite aggression. I would be interested to know more about him. But photographically, it is quite what I aspire to, as far as exposure, treatment etc goes. This man works in the building construction as a non qualified worker. His hand hides a cigarett and he said in a rather rude but kind way, yes when I asked if I could take his photograph. We were inside a square room - like a cube - with the sky above. The walls were not perfectly white but rather gray as they have been degraded by the time. He was by the wall when I told him to lean against it what he did. I can't remember if I have done two or three photos but I am almost sure I have done at least, some just in case  Perhaps the feeling of his supposed defensive way is connected to the fact that he was against the wall as I told before, but also he was kind of amused with the situation. He was going out of work and I know him for some time. He works with others I have also photographed but under the coloured theme "Work" in which I have not been working for ages.  Thank you Kit for asking and commenting. - I have looked at this a couple times Antonio. While it is good it is not quite at the same level as your previous images. I am not exactly set on why I feel this way but it seems to be missing the richness. The detail and brightness in the wall seems to draw attention from the man himself. It is nice but out in amongst your series I think it would stand out as different. What can I say Paul ? Perhaps yes it is rather different from the others but it was not intentionally. I really don't understand why you say this portrait is not as "rich" as the others. As I have been telling for some time: we can't like all the images we see. Nothing more normal. Sometimes we like better one than the other depending on our personality, culture and... mood of the moment. I forgive you Paul. Go in Peace. ;D ;D - Here is a character straight out of "Man of La Mancha (yes, that is Spanish...but, it is a people close)." He is a character rich in a tradition of the Portuguese people. It is somewhat hard to tell if he is leaning against the wall or using the wall to keep from falling down. The cigarette is carefully cupped against the wind and to warm his hand in the obvious cold air; the grizzled facial hair and somewhat frooping eyes tell a story of a man facing hard times. I think the treatment is just right for him. It is neither too soft, nor too harsh to reveal his character. So, he is rich of character in a tradition of Portuguese people...  Is that supposed to mean that you know Portuguese people ? Have you been working with them ?. I know there are Portuguese all over the World doing all kind of work. You have guessed that he was hiding the cigarette. I have even thought I could have made smoke out of his hand but I decided not to because I wouldn't have done perfectly and spoiled the image. Yes, the treatment is quite well done.  - Again great face and texture, but I do find the soft hand a bit distracting in foreground. Perhaps a bit yes...  - I too find the OOF hand a bit distracting. I like everything else though. |
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Post by jeeperman on Dec 16, 2011 22:38:27 GMT
LOL! I agree Antonio, we will have our favorites. My comments are only a personal observation. It is not to say it is not good...it is. Just looking to give honest feedback as I see it or as it strikes me. Which will likely be more on a personal feeling rather than a technical critique, as I am not so good there yet. |
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Post by chrisc on Dec 16, 2011 23:22:03 GMT
I have worked with a few Portugeuse (longshoremen) a few years ago...I hope I did not offend to suggest he typlifies any one group of your country's people, as I was only suggesting, like many of your subjects, he is not of the upper, to upper middle class, but as well, not living in a cardboard box in some small copse of nearby woods, either.
Here, we would call him a working man and it is these working men who have made all our lives so much richer with skills applied by hand.
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Post by Kit on Dec 17, 2011 2:54:52 GMT
Arrgh!! The cigarette! I didn't even see that.. Chris - I do believe you have just added a perfect new word to the lexicon. No, no, don't even pretend it was a slip of the finger or thumb, "frooping" has just become my favourite new word. # Wanders out of thread muttering "frooping, frooping.." |
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Post by Antonio Correia on Dec 17, 2011 12:26:34 GMT
I have worked with a few Portuguese (longshoremen) a few years ago...I hope I did not offend to suggest ... How could you offend ?  |
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Post by georgem on Dec 19, 2011 1:28:54 GMT
These are the kind of people shots that I find compelling, rather than formal portraiture or "bathing beauty" shots.
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Post by Antonio Correia on Dec 19, 2011 22:10:26 GMT
These are the kind of people shots that I find compelling, rather than formal portraiture or "bathing beauty" shots. Indeed, this is the reason why I do not like studio photography portraits. |
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Post by cannockwolf on Jan 5, 2012 16:36:21 GMT
its a great photo full of character, and the treatment is good to, the oof hand is the only down side, and perhaps lighten the eyes ever so slightly as they are quite dark due to the shadows, great capture Antonio!
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Post by Antonio Correia on Jan 5, 2012 16:56:00 GMT
its a great photo full of character, and the treatment is good to, the oof hand is the only down side, and perhaps lighten the eyes ever so slightly as they are quite dark due to the shadows, great capture Antonio! Thank you Dave. I will take care of that and post when I can. I am rather busy these days ... |
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