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Post by katynoelle on Oct 25, 2011 23:48:01 GMT
Could/would someone please help me with their definition of 'dodge' and of 'burn'. I use them but am struggling tremendously, each time, to remember which is which. any other tips about them would be soooo appreciated! er, thanks!
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Post by jiro on Oct 26, 2011 1:53:32 GMT
Dodge - similar to lightening up certain parts of an image.
Burn - similar to darkening certain parts of an image.
To create a more 3-dimensional look or effect, these two effects are very powerful tools to make an image pop. Hope this helps, Katy.
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Post by katynoelle on Oct 26, 2011 2:07:00 GMT
Thanks, Willie! Perhaps, if I think of burn - as in blackened and burnt, then, maybe, I could remember and not have to waste time fuddling. Then again, I think that was my strategy, the last ten times. Maybe, I'll just write it down. I've had breakthroughs, recently, with the clone tool - I'm sure that, eventually, I'll get the hang of this, too.
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Post by Kay on Oct 26, 2011 2:46:19 GMT
Thanks, Willie! Perhaps, if I think of burn - as in blackened and burnt, then, maybe, I could remember and not have to waste time fuddling. Then again, I think that was my strategy, the last ten times. Maybe, I'll just write it down. I've had breakthroughs, recently, with the clone tool - I'm sure that, eventually, I'll get the hang of this, too. Surprise! - I think of them that way as well - Burn= you get darker i.e hang around the fire or in the sun too long and Dodge = stay away from fire & sun you are lighter ;D
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Post by Stevewebb on Oct 26, 2011 7:09:03 GMT
Thanks, Willie! Perhaps, if I think of burn - as in blackened and burnt, then, maybe, I could remember and not have to waste time fuddling. Then again, I think that was my strategy, the last ten times. Maybe, I'll just write it down. I've had breakthroughs, recently, with the clone tool - I'm sure that, eventually, I'll get the hang of this, too. Thats exactly how I remember it
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Post by robmarshall on Oct 26, 2011 7:53:09 GMT
Katy
They are just old film photographer terms that got carried over to the digital side. There is a good example of using them in my RAW video tutorial.
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Post by katynoelle on Oct 26, 2011 12:20:47 GMT
Thanks, Willie, Kay, Steve and Rob! yup, Rob, I saw that it was int he video - really helpful! I've been just turning it way down to 1 or 2% and wondering if I should - nice to see that you do that - I'm not, er, ummm...crazy. and, then, it was very practical to see how you were using it...yet, whenever I get there....I forget which is which. (Really getting on my nerves, at this point.) It's just the truth. Now, maybe, I WON'T forget! (and, I suspect that I'm not the only one, though, in the history of the world who's been learning PS and having the same stupid foible. )
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Post by jeroenk on Oct 26, 2011 18:32:56 GMT
It's great to see how they did it 'back in the days' : Have a look at about 11:13 Besides that this video is a great insight in the craftsmanship of one of the greatest landscape photographers.
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Post by katynoelle on Oct 26, 2011 19:15:03 GMT
Thanks, Jeroen! Now, I'm glad that I just finally asked for help - I'm learning a thing or two. I'm, quite honestly, not a huge fan of Ansel Adams work. I mean, it's alright. (More confessions! Now you guys are going to shun me, aren't you. ) I find listening to him and about him seriously, extremely inspiring, though; so, thanks for the link!!! and, it was a relief to go into PS, today, and just get right to it with confidence and not have to futz around remembering.
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Post by The Wirefox on Oct 26, 2011 19:26:37 GMT
Katy
Always use a soft brush too and keep your finger on the mouse (or stylus on the tablet) for an even finish. If it needs more simply go over the ground again. When you get more proficient you can dab but it takes some practice
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Post by katynoelle on Oct 26, 2011 19:53:37 GMT
Thanks, Steve, that's what's been working so well with the clone tool and not doing too much at once so that, if I make a mistake, everything I've done isn't all lost. Speaking of, we're dodging each others' steps, this afternoon, and keep posting in the same threads within moments of each other. Great minds, etc.
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Post by katynoelle on Oct 27, 2011 12:47:05 GMT
Well, just a small, silly goose thing but....the first time that I've gone in PS and not had to spend five minutes fuddling to figure it out. For the first time, the silly tool worked much smoothly like I've heard people talk about. One small step.... I brightened the eye and the shadowy feathers on the neck and with the side feathers, on our left, which were very bright, I was able to bring back some detail and not making it quite so glaring. I'm sure that I could have done better but the whole experience felt hugely improved. (Instead of majorly fail! ) er, does it look alright? I couldn't seem to get it to go farther than that.
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Post by jiro on Oct 27, 2011 13:41:24 GMT
You're doing pretty good, Katy. Your edit is really good on this one. Good job!
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Post by katynoelle on Oct 27, 2011 14:36:03 GMT
Oh, gee, thanks, Willie!
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Post by jeeperman on Oct 28, 2011 3:49:12 GMT
Yes Katy you are doing good. I am unsure if it has been mentioned yet and I use Gimp so it may be a little different....but...one thing that helps me sometimes even when useing a soft brush is to reduce the opacity of said brush. I sometimes reduce it so that I can barely tell it is making a difference and just use more passes. Just a little more control for me as I can be heavy handed and not realise it until I am forced to undo what I have done. =}
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