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Post by rasbury on Sept 27, 2011 0:08:13 GMT
This is one of those lazy butterflies i told you about in your hummingbird thread Katy,And i'm glad he was because it's a beautiful subject.Don't know what kind it is though. Vibrant Beauty by Rasbury1, on Flickr
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Post by katynoelle on Sept 28, 2011 1:00:00 GMT
That's really quite beautiful, Ron! I mean, really, really beautiful - I've never seen a butterfly like this. (er, so, of course, I don't know the name, either... ) What I've noticed is challenging with butterflies is that they aren't sharp - their veins can be but their edges and eyes are awfully 'soft'. Then, there's the thing of how do we make it artistic and unique =] I'm suffering insecurities, here. ;D
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Post by rasbury on Sept 28, 2011 3:20:16 GMT
The softness in this one is from me using an f-stop with not enough dof .Tried some selective sharpening but did not want to go overboard with it.This is the first time i had seen this butterfly at the exhibit.I just love the colors on this one
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Post by frankie on Oct 4, 2011 4:58:27 GMT
I'm going to take a stab at the Identity of this and say it's a Gold-banded Forester (Euphaedra neophron).
I think you've done a really good job capturing this. The softness problem could be a result of the iridescence. It's very hard to get the color and the definition right when dealing with iridescence. You may want to experiment with shooting from different angles. That can keep it from looking flat and also can help with the softness issues. That is one of the things I like about shooting butterflies... the ability to try different angles, which can give you completely different looks.
Overall, I like this and this was a new butterfly for me. I love a challenge though!
frankie
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Post by katynoelle on Oct 4, 2011 11:41:42 GMT
Frankie! It's so nice to see you here! I was thinking about you as we were discussing, er, flutterbies. I agree that the attempts at getting a good angle on a butterfly are fascinating. Also, I keep wondering...I've never looked that closely at a butterfly until this summer and I'm wondering how "sharp" they are? They're eyes, for example, the gridwork seems soft. Also, most of my attempts have been with a new lens and I haven't been sure if it's the lens that's a bit soft. what I'm trying to say is that I'm not really sure what they're supposed to look like. Then...well, maybe, I'll go post another butterfly and talk about my conundrums, there.
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Post by rasbury on Oct 4, 2011 11:44:55 GMT
Hello Frankie.I was told by one of the people that work at the exhibit that it;s a orange banded forester this past weekend.I am glad you are here though to be our butterfly expert in the group.
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Post by frankie on Oct 4, 2011 14:40:44 GMT
Katy Noelle, So happy to see that you are still enjoying the butterflies! They are challenging for so many reasons. And to give a non-answer... since each one is so drastically different, they each have their own different challenges. Some of the eyes are not at all soft. For instance if you look at the Magnificent Owl's eyes: IMG_7589 by frankie hm, on Flickr They are striated, which gives an interesting effect. Not all patterns on a butterfly are going to be sharp and delineated. In some species the colors have more of a blend-in effect whereas others are very sharp and crisp: Clouded Mother of Pearl This one also adds the complication of the iridescence. Because this one will look very flat if you do not get the right angle to show the iridescent colors. IMG_7355 by frankie hm, on Flickr Leopard Lacewing: IMG_0675 by frankie hm, on Flickr Anyway - just a few examples. My suggestion is to just go somewhere where there are a variety of butterflies and just have fun shooting. If you have the luxury of going more than once, have fun the first time just getting any shot you can get. Then you'll have an opportunity to go through and see what works. Go back and be a little more serious and take a little more time with the shots and see what the difference is. But, like with any live animal... part of the fun is the unpredictability and you think you have that perfect shot, line it up, and bam!... off they fly. And... with all of that being said... I am in no way an expert on shooting butterflies... I still have a lot to learn frankie
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Post by frankie on Oct 4, 2011 14:48:25 GMT
Hello Frankie.I was told by one of the people that work at the exhibit that it;s a orange banded forester this past weekend.I am glad you are here though to be our butterfly expert in the group. I'm going to assume that Orange-banded and Gold-banded are essentially the same Very happy to be here in that capacity! They are one of my many passions.
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Post by jeeperman on Oct 4, 2011 14:49:00 GMT
Very pretty and well shot are both yours Ron and yours Frankie.
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