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Post by janis on Oct 3, 2011 18:28:55 GMT
I think this is just outstanding, Rob. Among other things, I like how his rumpled clothing contrasts with the smooth metal.
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Post by robmarshall on Oct 4, 2011 5:45:56 GMT
I think this is just outstanding, Rob. Among other things, I like how his rumpled clothing contrasts with the smooth metal. Thanks, Janis  I'm a bit surprised that this shot has been so well received. It really was just a quick grab-shot while I was waiting for the train to start. I put it on 500px and it's had 25 votes, whereas none of my previous shots there have got anywhere near that. And I put it on my ePhotozine account and it's had 30 votes in three days, and has been put into their Highly Commended Gallery. www.ephotozine.com/highly-commended-gallery I think the lesson here, if there is one, is that it's not how you produce a shot that matters, it's the final result that matters. It's also interesting that often because you as a photographer know the background to a shot you have taken it can take the edge off it's impact for you. This shot for example was taken in very ordinary surroundings, and the PP makes it look much better than it actually was. But the viewer doesn't know all of that. They just see the effect of it. I'm rambling again. Someone stop me... |
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Post by katynoelle on Oct 4, 2011 12:23:40 GMT
I'm rambling again. Someone stop me... but, it's a really good ramble! I'm glad that someone else is experiencing this. I'm absolutely perplexed about what photos are good and what are not. I suspect that I have some gorgeous photos of my 'backyard' but, because I see it all the time, I don't value them like I should. I just can't tell!  It's a trouble, I'm tellin' ya!  |
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Post by seriche on Oct 9, 2011 6:29:56 GMT
Look, Rob, I'm getting fed up of this. I only turn my back for a week and when I come back I find you posting an image like this! How on earth are poor beginners like me, who are doing our best to learn the art of hard C&C supposed to cope when faced with your engineer? What's to bloomin' well criticise, I ask you! All that I would have said has been ably said by those before me, and fawning is not my default position, but I can admire as deeply as the rest, so all I'll say is that it's fabulous. I collect old illustrated books, and have been trying to remember which artist's work it reminds me of. I love that SilverEfex Pro too, but still haven't moved off just tweaking the presets. What a stunning tool it is  |
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Post by robmarshall on Oct 9, 2011 6:36:59 GMT
I collect old illustrated books, and have been trying to remember which artist's work it reminds me of. I love that SilverEfex Pro too, but still haven't moved off just tweaking the presets. What a stunning tool it is Capitano Dick mentioned the name terence Cuneo, but I must confess I've not seen his paintings. www.flickr.com/photos/carregwenimages/6198198846/in/photostreamSEP is a very good tool! |
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Post by seriche on Oct 9, 2011 6:46:28 GMT
Cuneo certainly covers the subject matter, but it's the feel and finish of the thing that's still intriguing me. Sort of something between silverpoint , etching and some kind of Victorian printing process. As for SEP (thanks for the time-saving acronym ) it's so addictive that I'm even running hundreds of my old compact photos through it just to try to get a feel for B&W ;D |
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Post by robmarshall on Oct 9, 2011 13:42:22 GMT
Cuneo certainly covers the subject matter, but it's the feel and finish of the thing that's still intriguing me. Sort of something between silverpoint , etching and some kind of Victorian printing process. As for SEP (thanks for the time-saving acronym ) it's so addictive that I'm even running hundreds of my old compact photos through it just to try to get a feel for B&W ;D Yes, I know what you mean about that silverpoint etching effect. It's all down to SEP. When I first got SEP I too ran a lot of my old shots through it and was quite surprised at the results. Have you tried the layer process for colour shots that Jiro mentioned in a different forum? It improves your colour shots considerably. If you ask Jiro nicely he might replicate the details on this forum. |
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Post by The Wirefox on Oct 10, 2011 5:44:13 GMT
I use a slight variant on Jiro's method (I think) and it is to be highly recommended for lifting colour shots. I have not gotten around to SEP yet.I still use a GIMP plug-in with plenty of fiddling on the tonal strings and even a mild spattering of bump mapping has be known
I think Rob once ran a thread where we tried to replicate one of his SEPed shots (bicycles I think). Very interesting results because even though the remit was replication the various styles and interpretations shone through
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Post by seriche on Oct 10, 2011 10:56:38 GMT
Rob and Wirefox, I'm only at the base level with SEP, LR3 and CS5, but SEP is astonishing even just using the presets and playing around a bit with them after. I'll post one of the first shots I did with it on a thread now, just to show what a beginner to landscapes and B&W can get out of it. I would love to try the layering process for my old colour shots, but CS5 is just a vessel for Content Aware Fill at the moment. The rest is a mystery. I can't wait to learn more about PP in general, but it's so hard to know where to begin. A kind friend showed me the very basics of layers, but I was so excited when I saw what he could do with it that I forgot to write it all down and then forgot the sequence of things I'd be eternally grateful for any tutorials on any kind of PP on this forum, and I'm sure I can't be the only one in need of clear guidance. My books aren't helping me as much as I hoped they would, as they assume too much previous knowledge. Would it be unethical to reproduce anything done by current members on other forums in the past? Unlike myself, many people here have jobs, family and other concerns, and I can only imagine how much time and energy is being spent behind the scenes, gratis, to craft this forum, so anything that would help take the weight off would help, I would have thought. |
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Post by robmarshall on Oct 11, 2011 5:38:44 GMT
I would love to try the layering process for my old colour shots, but CS5 is just a vessel for Content Aware Fill at the moment. The rest is a mystery. I can't wait to learn more about PP in general, but it's so hard to know where to begin. A kind friend showed me the very basics of layers, but I was so excited when I saw what he could do with it that I forgot to write it all down and then forgot the sequence of things I'd be eternally grateful for any tutorials on any kind of PP on this forum, and I'm sure I can't be the only one in need of clear guidance. My books aren't helping me as much as I hoped they would, as they assume too much previous knowledge. Seri Have you considred on-line tuorials as part of a paid package. I use Lynda.com, which is excellent. Apart from covering the technical skills of photography, they have an excellent range on CS5. It's abot £16 per month, but you can stop it at any time. Here is the Photoshop basic course - you can only view the bold items until you subscribe. www.lynda.com/Photoshop-CS5-tutorials/essential-training/60816-2.html?srchtrk=index%3A6%0Alinktypeid%3A2%0Aq%3Acs5%20photoshop%0Apage%3A1%0As%3Arelevance%0Asa%3Atrue%0Aproducttypeid%3A2#nogo Have a look at the welcome module. If you have plenty of free time you should be able to get through quite a few in a couple of months subscription. |
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Post by seriche on Oct 11, 2011 8:33:42 GMT
Thanks, Rob, sorry for the late reply......got side-tracked by a wind-felled bird table and a couple of slugs that needed to be transferred to some spare parasol mushrooms I had hanging about ;D Thanks a bunch for the link. I took a look, and I think that will be for me, but I couldn't get the free sample videos to work, only the sound. So I went looking for a fix and was directed to the main Corel site, but nothing I try seems to work so far. Any ideas? All other videos from other sites are working fine. Free time is not something I have a lot of at this time of year......that is, I do, but always find far too many enjoyable things to do with it, and use it all up. But this would probably be a good time to mention something I've been meaning to say for a while. In short, one of the names my friends call me is 'Persephone' as I'm highly seasonal. From January to July I go into deep hibernation and have to suspend all forms of contact during those months. But the other half of the year I live life to the full ;D So, taking your point about making the most of the Lynda.com sub, I will take the first one out in January and give myself a concentrated course for the next six months. Then, hopefully, when I run gratefully back to this forum in July 2012 I will be a great deal better informed about CS5 and the rest ;D Cheers, Seri |
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