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Post by Barry on Jan 30, 2012 22:37:20 GMT
After seeing Dave's image of Magpie Mine, I thought I would have another play with one of mine.  Nikon D200, f10, 1/125, ISO100, Nikon 18-200VR Lens at 27mm. Version 2  Version 3 without the excess buildings in background.  |
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Post by jeeperman on Jan 31, 2012 2:47:12 GMT
Nice work Barry, I like it!
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Post by chrisc on Jan 31, 2012 2:59:03 GMT
Ehhh, I dunno...it's almost doomier and gloomier than my stuff. I think my biggest problem with the imagery is not being able to clearly discern what's going on with the top of the round thingy in the foreground. it almost appears to be on the same plane as the dark, ominous clouds that rise from mid-right to upper left.
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Post by jjbacoomba on Jan 31, 2012 3:43:18 GMT
Nice work Barry. What exactly is that round thing?
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Post by Barry on Jan 31, 2012 18:24:14 GMT
What exactly is that round thing? It is a Gin Wheel used as a hoisting drum for the mines in the background. |
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Post by Barry on Jan 31, 2012 18:28:15 GMT
Cheers Chris for your comment, I can't quite decide if I have gone a bit too dark in the upper part of this image. I will get it printed and see what it looks like, otherwise I will need to add a more dramatic sky. The original sky was just too bright, and there were some very distracting timber supports above the wheel.
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Post by nickjohnson on Jan 31, 2012 21:25:52 GMT
Barry, I had a problem figuring this one out – so it's taken me some time to get back to you.
Right up front I have to confess to a dislike of some of the D&G work. Now that's my problem – not yours. But that personal taste thing means that I have to be careful to make points of substance rather than points of blind prejudice.
Like Chris I am immediately taken by an unease with the semi-circle soft shadow at top left of frame. It somehow feels incongruous with the sharp edged diagonal shadow running across the gin wheel. Hummm...... Then I notice that the gin wheel shadow looks nothing like the shape of the gin wheel that I can see. Then I notice that the lighting / shadows looks like a mix of single point and large defuse – which is fine – except that somehow the way the two are working together looks ….. unnatural.
Now I suspect that this was actually taken in bright, side lit sunshine and my worries are groundless. Fair enough. But for me – as presented – something has gone missing in action.
For me the composition does not work either. It may be the strong light – but I think there are elements that could make several pictures here. In any event the diagonal shadow on the winding drum is just so powerful that my eye never really gets the chance to go any further into the image.
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Post by Barry on Jan 31, 2012 21:36:39 GMT
Cheers Nick for your feedback, you are right about the full on sunshine, you have made some very valid points about the image which I agree with. I will have another go at this one, starting from scratch which only happened to be a Jpeg.
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Post by jeeperman on Jan 31, 2012 21:44:53 GMT
Other than the diagonal shadow, which I must admit did not at first somehow catch my eye......I still like it.  |
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Post by Barry on Jan 31, 2012 21:54:33 GMT
Other than the diagonal shadow, which I must admit did not at first somehow catch my eye......I still like it. I still like this one as well, but I'm always looking for ways to improve or make a different version. |
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Post by chrisc on Jan 31, 2012 22:21:59 GMT
When looking for another sky, might I suggest one with more lighting on the clouds. Not too much, but given the hard shadow on the gin wheel, there is some pretty strong sunlight in the original shot that has to be properly minded to.
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Post by Barry on Jan 31, 2012 22:29:13 GMT
Cheers Chris, I'm working on it as I'm writing ;D
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Post by Barry on Jan 31, 2012 22:52:38 GMT
Just uploaded a edited version, the sky is the original sky as shot, just darkened down using levels and exposure. B&W conversion was done in CS3, plus I have removed the shadow on Gin Wheel.
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Post by chrisc on Jan 31, 2012 23:16:08 GMT
I certainly like this version better, but I found a few disctracting elements I think you could lose and still maintain a strong image. The little stuctures in the middle and immediately to the larger ruin at the far left weren't doing anything for the image, so I made them go away. I also cropped it on both right and left sides to keep the focus directly on the gin wheel and its directional push to the large ruin.  I see now, I should have taken out all the little things in the middle, below the gin wheel as the ones to the left of the trees are especially annoying in the edit. See. I see now, I should have taken out all the little things in the middle, below the gin wheel as the ones to the left of the trees are especially annoying in the edit.  |
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Post by Barry on Feb 1, 2012 17:17:51 GMT
Cheers Chris, good suggestion about removing those other buildings, I have just added a 3rd version to my original post.
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